Double standard

sometimes i cannot decide if men have more fashion freedom, or less. they have a much more narrowly (culturely-) defined range of options in contrast to women but then within those options, there is room for creativity to be sure. not to mention that my favorite outfit of all times, a t-shirt and jeans, can look so much better on them (than me grrrr). i wonder if my variety of choices backfires, on me anyway. too many choices muddle my decisions i think.

so working backwards i thought, if i were a guy, what would i wear, or rather, what would my style be? obviously my style is largely informed by my experience and mind, as a woman, but all things being equal (wouldn't that be nice), if i were me, as a guy, what style would i embrace? looking at an opposite can still, sometimes, be a useful tool.

if you were a boy, how would you dress?


Anonymous said...

i have no idea how i would dress as a guy.
i think they have less options because in our society we have skirt and dress options and they usually do not.
although everything is even in the accessory department these days re handbags and maybe dresses are just around the corner.....pants and long tunics maybe?

but i can say without a doubt that as a girl i love that last outfit that the guy is wearing in the pictures you chose.

love the print coat mix/matched with another pant pattern yet still in the same tan/green earthy family color split with the white shirt and a dash of spark in the red and white shoes. really great outift. inspiring. i have to keep it in mind.

reno said...

if i were a guy... t-shirts and jeans...
but i guess i'm thinking if i were a guy, i'd be a guy without my interest in fashion... i guess if i were a guy but still who i am, i would like to wear all the stuff you posted. wouldn't mind wearing some of it now, as a girl either. i wonder if guys envy us for our sartorial choices or if they like being simple. i'm generalizing of course. some guys out there are obviously buying the stuff shown on these runways or else the brands would be out of business. i wish i saw some of this stuff irl though.

Carlene said...

I have an inside source on what guys envy us for (fashionwise); information. My husband is quasi-fashiony, and loves men's fashion magazines. Or, should I say, the fashion sometimes inserted into men's magazines. There's hardly any, comparatively. GQ sucks, seriously. Sometimes there's a nice Lucky-mag type spread in Men's Health. Otherwise, it's mostly very, very high end businesswear. Men's Vogue? No fashion, can you imagine? Apparently there's no market for this type of magazine? To help men dress? Please.

Anyway, how would I dress if I were a boy? Probably like my husband; a little bit of vintage, some Mason khakis or linen pants, or jeans of course. Really cool shoes (men do have the coolest shoes and hey, all of us bigfoot chicks [9.5 here] can wear them, too!) and some cool bag. (Tony has the best vintage leather messenger-type bag, it weighs 400 pounds). I might be a little more adventurous (I love the Thom Brown thing, I love that guy on Sartorialist with the anklet). If I were rich and young and skinny, I'd like to dress like that guy up there in Dior Homme. Hell, if I were rich and young and skinny, man or not, I'd be wearing that tomorrow.

editor said...

carlene - i used to work in a related industry to menswear, and i had a theory that it was an underdeveloped industry with a lot of potential, that retailers and publishers had not made the same effort to make men into consumers. but that if they tried, they could. with the evidence in the magazines, it seems that publishers/editors either don't know how to do this, or don't believe in the audience or perhaps just concluded that they didn't want to give men the same handicap women have socially (appearance pressure - a lot of the desire for "it" items stems from a need to hold a social position). wouldn't it be interesting if skinny young you, Tony and i got together with all of your fictious wealth and started a proper men's magazine to see if we could do it right - muwah-ha ha.
(yes, the big feet do pay off in the men's shoe dept.)

editor said...

wow, look at that, you all want to wear men's clothes now!

Carlene said...

Oh, man, I'd totally love to start a menswear magazine! We could at least try to publish a couple books a la Lucky style guide. Or, how about a blog!?! (Actually, Carson Kressley from Queer Eye has a pretty good book, but it doesn't have any PHOTOS) I don't believe that publishers (or advertisers) would even think twice about "handicapping" men with appearance pressure; Border's would be lousy with men's fashion magazines if they knew they'd $ell.

editor said...

carlene - hmmm, we may have to discuss this further...
by the way, did you know that barnes&nobles puts fashion magazines under "women's interests".

Iheartfashion said...

It's true; my husband has also noticed the dearth of men's style mags out there. He briefly tried men's Vogue, GQ, etc, but they are mostly about things other than clothes. I think that's partly why the Sartorialist has become SO popular, because he speaks in detail about men's fashion and offers pointers about sleeve length, pants break, etc, that men were craving.
BTW, I'd be in Dior Homme too!

La Primavera said...

I would dress like James Bond (the Connery-Moore times) did. Don't laugh at there! I adore black suits and clean-cut men. I hate all this skinny jeans & unwashed hair-style that is all over.

editor said...

la primavera - that sounds good. hair should be washed! i can't hear "moore" and not think of the time i saw roger outside a pharmacy in london wearing a bright royal blue blazer. but bond, bond i understand.

iheartfashion - why is that? do you think the publishers think men won't want to be seen reading about fashion? it's so odd really. it's not like guys are opting to run around naked, so obviously they are making fashion choices for themselves. why should they get any less "help" than women. maybe there's an underground advice source. sartorialist is acceptable because there is plenty of leg featured there too, so the hints about fashion are packaged just so. a spoon full of sugar helps the medicine go down - if a non-fashion-savvy guy lands on the sartorialist, he can find himself being accidentally educated inbetween the posts of the women.

fashionaddict said...

I think the beauty of menswear is how men are allowed to have a uniform - sometimes it seems to be menswear has been so perfectly evolved into what works for daily life, that it no longer has to change - a shirt, trousers, and a jacket is all man needs.

I envy that, and I like the fact that that simple combination can exists in so many different forms - the style of Etro is very different from say, Narciso Rodriguez.

The flighty creatures that we women are - one day a dress is the solution to all our problems, the minute it's all about the suit again - probably means the same path of evolution won't happen for us, but I do try create that sense of ease in how I dress.

I've digressed too much - back to the question, I would probably dress like a John Varvatos man - a bit rock and roll, a bit classic, not at all flamboyant, more likely to buy the perfect jeans than the perfect suit, sneakers rather then bespoked shoes. But I would also clean up nicely in a lean (but not skinny) Prada suit. Not tuxes please.

This is exactly how I dress as a girl.

Candid Cool said...

For me my inspiration comes more from menswear anyway. I feel there is more romanticism in menswear (the exception: haute couture of course). Just the ritual of putting on a suit, vest, tie, cuff links, shining one’s shoes, hat…of course many men do not dress like this, I find the thought of the man that does this very beautiful. I guess the aesthetic of Kris Van Assche really appeals to me, the idea of the ritual of taking the time to dress up.

I also love the aesthetic of Hedi Slimane pretty much founded with Dior Homme especially his earlier work under the label.

Before I “discovered” Dior Homme I was really into Dolce & Gabbana. I know their ads can be a bit off-putting especially to the vulgar side, but I think seeing the clothes minus all the advertising hype it’s really beautifully cut clothing that a 25 year to a 60 year old man can wear.

And to throw the whole thing off, off course there would be days when I’d just want to wear some slim (not skinny) cut jeans and a slouchy t-shirt (which is how I dress already). Or look like a brooding poet in Ann Demeuleemester.

Candid Cool said...

Oh "Menswear Magazine" is a really good magazine comes out 2x a yr, B&N carries it. the closest thing I would compare it to is a Lucky, but without all "the fluff."

There's not a lot of articles, and the articles are brief and are about the designer's collection.

It's a clean cut well edited showing of clothing, accessories, etc.. that I think the average guy that takes into consideration his appearance can relate to.